Ive been in recovery for 11 years and am learning so much.. regardless of whether or not its the "real" Joe/Charlie. All I know is that Im fascinated listening to these two guys explain the history and steps of AA in a way Ive never heard it before. I LOVE how they play off each other, and its never boring! I just drove 7 hrs from Palm Springs to San Francisco, and the drive flew by as I listened to these two. The actual audio recording was done in 1998, probably by non-professional audio techs, and the sound quality reflects that.. but the message is still worth it and more. Although its not AA-sanctioned, its still well worth anyones time who wants to strengthen their program, learn more about the disease of alcoholism (addiction), or work the AA program the way the big book intended for us to.